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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:31 am

I know I'm not scum, and scum obviously don't have a majority which would mean that I would force scum to vote for themselves which they are oviously not going to do because they would die and that would be bad for mafia.

nobody is going to vote for themselves not at this stage in the game but a faction deserves to lose if they don't listen to me.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:56 am

Darth, how do you think we should move forward. Almost every move (apart from lynching you, which I assume you don't want) requires your input and participation.

Hey, here's an idea: try to use your Dreamer powers to let everyone get the password, or something. Worth a shot.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:00 am

I assume I will be getting another clue soon as Rewind has messaged me asking how many clues he's sent.

I propose waiting until then if possible.

If not you three discuss and decide who is going to self vote
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Post by If I Could Rewind Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:58 am

*EPIC FACEPLAM*

yes and no overlord you do need less people for the vote but you still need more than one.

Also so far only overlord has guessed the password
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Post by Reverse Simplicity Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:53 am

vote: Darth that is all. xD

But really Darth is so far the only one who is not confirmed either town or survivor.
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Post by Alex Steiner Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:58 am

You forgot "who's not Reverse".

I'm not sure here.

Overlord, survivor doctor, Reverse says 50/50 town scum. This doesn't sound right.
Darth, dreamer with really strong bad for town, but no wincon. Loose cannon, except with voting.
Reverse, town planner. Town is his role, not his faction.
Alex, confirmed town lucky veteran.

So, I think I should lynch either Reverse or Overlord. Thoughts?
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Post by Reverse Simplicity Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:07 pm

Actually my ability confirmed OL to be survivor.

And from my point of view I have confirmed myself so Razz

Alex, confirmed town lucky veteran. (If you trust everything the mod has said)
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Post by If I Could Rewind Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:43 pm

Random Event 7:
Many of you by now have guessed the password and you think you can finally end this nightmare that seems like a psychopathic sick game. However the homeless man seems to think differently, just as he prepares to leave he stops and turns around.In a voice like a parent explaining something simple to a small child he states one last puzzle. " There is an angel in you midst, and I would just like to let you know that some angel's aren't as the bible paints them". On this note he leaves waving goodbye for the last time, you quickly scramble to find out what this final last clue (which may be your salvation) means.

ITS REALLY IMPORTANT YOU SOLVE THIS ONE

THIS IS THE LAST RANDOM EVENT FOR THIS GAME
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Post by Reverse Simplicity Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:15 pm

Yay! last one. One of us is an angel? But that angel is evil?

So darth prepared to die?
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Post by Alex Steiner Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:32 pm

"Appearance of an Angel: looks like town if investigated and on death."

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Post by Reverse Simplicity Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:33 pm

Uhh no one I investigated turned up with town stats...
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Post by Supreme Overlord Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:46 am

What did Alex come up with (the formerly Tim Tam one)? I can't seem to find your result. Anyway, wasn't Darth 100% town? Even that mod confirmation looks a little shady now, but 'absolutely guarenteed to be town' seems a step up from 'looks like town if investigated or dies'.

Alex and Reverse, have you guessed the password yet? If so, Alex, you really need to say what's going through your head.

As for my 50/50 as survivor, I'd say it's a combination of being technically 'neutral', able to block vig kills, likely to side with scum in endgame ('any lynch is good'); there could also be some kind of death ability I don't know about (which isn't likely to have much effect at this point in the game).

Nothing said so far has given me any indication that we should not lynch Darth. The 100% planner result plus the angel effect looks pretty conclusive to me.
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Post by Alex Steiner Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:21 am

Hmmm...

I have guessed the password, apparently it's only Darth who has not.

I am at that stage of the game where I don't know what to do (not conclusiely anyway). Nothing's clear cut.

I can see planner as a mafia ability, helps them tell who has power for the town. How can you say/show you're town?

I am predisposed to distrust anyone whose wncon is not my own. Fair enough about the 50/50 though.

Darth is annoying. Just annoying. We are at endgame people, everyone needs to be able to vote.

Darth, who is scum?

Overlord, who is scum (even if it doesn't matter to you)?

Reverse, how do you interpret the results and observations you have made about the 4 of us? Who is scum?

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Post by Reverse Simplicity Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:35 am

I am having a tough time believing the only thing the mod has been clear about so far. (Your being town). But darth seems to be the one who needs to die, since I win with the town 70/30 and OL wins if he survives to endgame. Darth seems to be the only one left.
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Post by If I Could Rewind Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:58 am

Vote count 1, Day 4:
2 Darth {SO, RS} (L-1/L-0)


If darth guesses the password he needs one more person trying to lynch him but otherwise not.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:34 am

This is obviously a giant plot against me from the start my 100% good for town was a fabrication so that you could make such accusations as you are making now. I told people at the start of this game my top thre mafia were
1. Reverse Simplicity
2. Supreme Overlord
3. King of Eggs
There are dour players left and I don't think I'm scum, Two of the people on my scum list are still here which means at least one of them has to be scum.
If Supreme Overlord is survivour as he said then it is Reverse and Alex.
Revrse claims TOWN planer which means it is Alex and Overlord
Alex claims lucky veteran thingy which means it is Reverse and Overlord
I have a one in three chance that my original predictaions were correct and yet you people don't listen to me.
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Post by Reverse Simplicity Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:42 am

We don't listen because you are wrong so often...

I am still not scum... why do you all keep saying it?! Seriously keep saying it eventually you may be right.

I have changed my claim, Clearly im some new wincon IICR came up with. 70/30% chance to win with town, this is my only wincon.

Im voting for you because with the recent event you are the only one I dont have a confirmed wincon for. That and you are in Bethlehem with a picture of Jesus. Not only am I atheist but I do believe that Jesus didn't return to his hometown when he was the age depicted in your avatar.

Bleh.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:47 am

I think Darth is scum, but it is possible that, as part of his role, he does not know it. With the relevation that there is an angel in the game, and Darth's 100% result, it seems kinda obvious; especially because his role has had no pro-town effect so far.

I'm essentially convinced that Alex is town. There has been no concrete evidence against Reverse-SK, but his recent play and mod actions indicate otherwise.

Darth, a 1 in 3 chance of being correct just isn't good enough to say 'you should all listen to me' in a 7-player game with 2-3 scum. How did you pick those three at the start, and why has nothing changed your opinion throughout the entire game?
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:54 am

Reverse: When exactly have I been wrong so often my original suspisions usually identify scum

Overlord: If I had reason to change my opinion I would have changed it, in fact I did change it once in the game (from Reverse to Alex) when I thought Reverse's ability was all but confirmed when he identified my Dreamer role with 100% good for town then when I read that town planer could also be a scum role I changed my mind again. If I have reasons to doubt my own opinions I will change my scum list. As so far I have had no reason to change it I have not.

Also a new message from Rewind

okay sorry if that was confusing but I must have messed up your clues a little bit ao here's the proper ones

Clue 1: Your ability is very versatile but only over a specific way to affect things.

Clue 2: Your ability is you may send as many PM's to me every day or night so basiclly your abillity is unlimited.

Clue 3: Your ability has to do with people's roles.

Clue 4: Your ability Can end the game.
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Post by Alex Steiner Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:44 am

Why haven't you used your ability?
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:12 am

ok sugest what my ability may be and I'll send a message to Rewind to see if it is.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:09 am

You've had all weekend; any results? If you still need suggestions, try joining the faction that's closest to winning.

Alex, we need an opinion here. Are you willing to vote, or not? If not, why not? In my opinion, there is ample reason to lynch Darth.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:44 am

no there isn't my wish not to vote is not a reason to vote for me and that is your only arguement.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:01 am

...Apart from the confirmation of an angel in the game, your 100% planner result, your lack of a town win condition and no inclination whatsoever to contribute to a town win.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:23 am

confirmation of an angle is not a reason to lych me my 100% planner result only applies if I know how to use it (which I don't) and my lack of a town win condition means nothing when comepared to my lack of a scum win condition
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