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Post by If I Could Rewind Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:26 am

I open room 2
simply because older people have already experienced life while young people, including myself have yet to contribute or experience so much. This probably seems very callused but in this kind of choice their is no right choice therefore it's best to pick the least "bad" choice
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:44 am

lights flash sirens blare you open the door to Room 2 you swerve to the right and kill the elderly couple, unfortunately you obviously weren't thinking straight because you also just turned into oncoming traffic and you die which is exceedingly unfortunate.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:58 am

CHOICE 32:

Dessert Island

You wake up and you look around you notice you are on a desert island and you remember ‘oh yeah I totally forgot about that freak yachting accident’ you look up and down the beach and notice your friend lying not too far away you go over to see if they are alright but they are dead, you are stuck on the desert island you know that search and rescue will find you eventually (sometime within a month) but there is nothing to eat on the island.

ROOM 1:

If you open the door to Room 1 you’re just like, Screw it I’m just going to eat the bastard

ROOM 2:

If you open the door to Room 2 you hold of for ten days but there is a fair chance of putrefaction you may die from food poisoning but you can last the next twenty days without food.

ROOM 3:

If you open the door to Room 3 you choose to wait for twenty days before you eat them, though the body has started to decay quite noticeably you might just make it through until the end of the month.

ROOM 4:

If you open the door to Room 4 you choose to wait a month and you don’t eat your friend but there is only a small chance you will survive that long.
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Post by If I Could Rewind Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:10 am

Hmmm I'm torn between room 1 and room 2 but in the end I'll have to say Open room one (as long as I am only easting the biologically safe parts of my friend) No mutation or stuff like that.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:36 am

Dessert Island? Chocolate icecream, thanks.

Yeah, I'd have to go with Room 1 as well (my friend would want me to live!); although you would probably wait 3-5 days until you got really hungry. There's no point risking death for yourself over what is by this stage a sack of meat.
(Although, like Rewind, I have inclinations towards Room 2 as well, likely in a real emergency your will to survive would be even stronger than your emotional misgivings, unlike many other of these choices where one might shy away from a hard but 'right' option in reality)


Note: It occurs to me that 'dessert' might be an attempt at a pun. It doesn't work if other people think you have a natural propensity for mispelling.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:58 am

thank you Overlord, yes is was a pun, also do you think you would be mor elikely to hold off eating the body if it was a family member not just a friend?
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Post by Supreme Overlord Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:33 am

Probably not. Once you make the rational decision to eat a human body, I can't imagine it would matter greatly who it was, if you already knew them. I'd guess it would be considerably easier to eat a stranger. Then again, something could probably be said for familarity making it easier...
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:41 am

lights flash sirens blare you open the door to room one put on your bibs and hook into it and doesn't it taste delicious too.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:49 am

Yum!

I love how there are rooms on a desert island...
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:50 am

CHOICE 32:

Road Kill

You are driving home one night from work, you are almost home when a dog runs out onto the road in front of you and you run over and kill it, upon further inspection you realise that it is your neighbours kids dog, and you happen to know this kid has a mean streak.

ROOM 1:

If you open the door to Room 1 you choose to go over and tell your neighbours what happened and face the kid’s wrath whatever form it may come in.

ROOM 2:

If you open the door to Room 2 you wipe the blood of the car pull the fur from the bulbar and never mention this again.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:11 am

Clearly, the 'right' decision is Room 1. However, to me, the idea that 'no one will ever know' bears remarkable similarity to 'it never happened'.

Looking at the consequences:
Room 1:
Clean conscience
Kid attacks me
Neighbours buy a new dog

Room 2:
Guilty conscience
I'm safe
Neighbours buy a new dog


I can't say my conscience would bother me all that much once I've rationalised the decision. Room 2.
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Post by If I Could Rewind Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:57 am

I'm going to have to open room 1 simply because secrets have a way of
1. getting out
2. making you feel guilty
and 3. never mention this again (SOOOOO suspicious)
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:35 am

lights flash sirens blare and you both go to open separate doors but then remember that the universe would implode if such a paradox were ever to occur. So you back off, and your indecision leads you not only to run over the dog but to then swerve and run over child on the street before running into a house and killing a family eating dinner, your car then explodes and sends fiery debris over the neighbouring house setting them alight and killing the families inside them, and as the fire spreads and more and more people die you start to feel really guilty for not coming to a consensus.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:50 am

CHOICE 33:

The House Conundrum

You are a doctor treating a sick dictator; this dictator will die if you misdiagnose him and there are two possible diseases he could have, a simple blood test will point toward which is most likely. But you know this dictator has supported the genocide of a minority group in their country.

ROOM 1:

If you open the door to Room 1 then you do the blood test and treat them for whatever the results say is most likely.

ROOM 2:

If you open the door to Room 2 then you do the blood test to see which disease is more likely and then fake a result to the contrary and deliberately treat them for the least likely.
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Post by Supreme Overlord Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:07 am

If one believed in a higher power, one would take Door 1 and let the deity decide whether or not to give you the right result.

However, I believe that I am the higher power. So...
This is actually a pretty good dilemma.

No, I'm just stalling; I've really already decided and anything else is rationalisation.

Door 2. He appears to be a bad guy and I have the power to stop him.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:18 am

you have the power to probably stop him you might be curing him.

If I gave you the option, that you held off giving a diagnosis until it was too late either way would you have taken that aproach?
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Post by Supreme Overlord Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:49 am

Eh, it depends on how likely it was that I'd be found out. It's far more likely that someone would realise I hadn't diagnosed him at all rather than I'd misintepreted the results. On the whole, it's more important that I don't get caught than I kill him.
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Post by Alex Steiner Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:53 am

It really depends on how powerful the influence of the dictator and allies are where I live. Do you know what happens to the doctors of powerful leaders who die because of them? Even if it's not certain it was my fault.

So, it depends.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:55 am

like Micheal Jackson's doctor?

Also you live in a different country and they have np power there.
Also you can't be arrested for being too cautious with a diagnosis.
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Post by If I Could Rewind Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:25 am

Door 1 !!!!!!!

simply because I'm a doctor I need to help people if they also happen to die after they leave the hospital it's much less suspicious?
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:07 am

Sirens blare, lights flash and you are momentarily disorientated by the fact the you were expecting the lights to flash then the sirens to blare but still you open door one and give the evil dictator the proper medicine and hope they go to hell/ live happily ever after (after all who would live happily ever after with those damn minorities out of your way).
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:14 am

CHOICE 34:

BFF

Ok there are five rooms in each room one of your five best friends are trapped. I want to know who you put in the rooms (and which rooms they’re in) and which door do you open/ which friend do you save.

ROOM 1:

If you open the door to Room 1 friend X will be saved while friends Y, Z, J and K die

ROOM 2:

If you open the door to Room 2 friend Y will be saved while friends X, Z, J and K die

ROOM 3:

If you open the door to Room 3 friend Z will be saved while friends X, Y, J and K die

ROOM 4:

If you open the door to Room 4 friend J will be saved while friends X, Y, Z and K die

ROOM 5:

If you open the door to Room 5 friend K will be saved but friends X, Y, Z and J die
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Post by If I Could Rewind Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:20 am

wait so we have to pick the friends to choose between ?
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Post by Supreme Overlord Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:42 am

Apparently so.

Hooray for the anonymity of the internet!
Anyway, here goes:
Room Assignments:
Open Room 4.
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Post by Darth Skywalkerbacca Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:45 am

ok light flash sirens blare and 4/5 of your BFFs die a horrible death while while 1/5 survive, you are a terrible friend.
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