Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
@Reverse Simplicity
Oh, my mistake. Sorry about that...
Well, yeah, I think we can all get behind Clouds' confirmed non-towniness...
(sorry about this, I know you did upgrade me, but...)
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Oh, my mistake. Sorry about that...
Well, yeah, I think we can all get behind Clouds' confirmed non-towniness...
(sorry about this, I know you did upgrade me, but...)
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
Cloud, how about you tell us about the one in opposition to you before I join the wagon?
And would the one in opposition to Cloud like to speak up?
And would the one in opposition to Cloud like to speak up?
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The role is Big Business, though I don't know why you all think of me as a threat.
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
I was going to suggest Cloud next because he had mentioned being neutral before. Sorry buddy, but for the rest of us who are either town or scum, you gotta go.
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
I HAVE RETURNED.
Hello. Sorry about that. I've caught up now. I am a pokémon master and a dabbling physicist.
Cloud Kicker has claimed neutral, but not whether he can win with town. I want more talk from him (and Big Business) before he hangs. Let's make use of our daylight.
Darth is now Vanilla, though that (presumably) doesn't change his win condition.
Saphira never breathes blue flames (though Brisingr, the sword, does). My money is on Azula doing the roasting at this point.
My role PM flavour text mentioned a pony, so I can vouch for there being one (though I'd be surprised if MLP was omitted from this game at this point). I guess it rules out Discord and the other non-pony ponies. Helloooo Applejack claim.
2 foot long yellow lightning-y blur? Hmmm. Pikachu is the obvious thought, but perhaps too obvious.
I claim to not be from the MLP, Avatar, or Eragon universes :O
Finally, my own vaguely related passive hint that's not misleading at all.
Yep.
Hello. Sorry about that. I've caught up now. I am a pokémon master and a dabbling physicist.
Cloud Kicker has claimed neutral, but not whether he can win with town. I want more talk from him (and Big Business) before he hangs. Let's make use of our daylight.
Darth is now Vanilla, though that (presumably) doesn't change his win condition.
Saphira never breathes blue flames (though Brisingr, the sword, does). My money is on Azula doing the roasting at this point.
My role PM flavour text mentioned a pony, so I can vouch for there being one (though I'd be surprised if MLP was omitted from this game at this point). I guess it rules out Discord and the other non-pony ponies. Helloooo Applejack claim.
2 foot long yellow lightning-y blur? Hmmm. Pikachu is the obvious thought, but perhaps too obvious.
I claim to not be from the MLP, Avatar, or Eragon universes :O
Finally, my own vaguely related passive hint that's not misleading at all.
Yep.
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
I've been waiting to talk with you. How did you know someone's ability right off the bat?Alex Steiner wrote:I HAVE RETURNED.
Hello. Sorry about that. I've caught up now. I am a pokémon master and a dabbling physicist.
Cloud Kicker has claimed neutral, but not whether he can win with town. I want more talk from him (and Big Business) before he hangs. Let's make use of our daylight.
Darth is now Vanilla, though that (presumably) doesn't change his win condition.
Saphira never breathes blue flames (though Brisingr, the sword, does). My money is on Azula doing the roasting at this point.
My role PM flavour text mentioned a pony, so I can vouch for there being one (though I'd be surprised if MLP was omitted from this game at this point). I guess it rules out Discord and the other non-pony ponies. Helloooo Applejack claim.
2 foot long yellow lightning-y blur? Hmmm. Pikachu is the obvious thought, but perhaps too obvious.
I claim to not be from the MLP, Avatar, or Eragon universes :O
Finally, my own vaguely related passive hint that's not misleading at all.
Yep.
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
Frankly, I don't want Cloud killing a random player because the game tells him to.
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Sorry CK.
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Sorry CK.
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Dark Vessel wrote:Frankly, I don't want Cloud killing a random player because the game tells him to.
And I wouldn't mind if that random player did die, because I have a growing suspicion that said random player might be considerably worse than Cloud (who, so far, is making a lot of noise with game mechanics- not something associated with evil roles).
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@Dark Vessel
That's exactly what you're trying to do though.
Anyhow, I have no way of killing anyone.
And if someone could tell me, what is the win condition for town? Because I don't think I pose a threat to that.
That's exactly what you're trying to do though.
Anyhow, I have no way of killing anyone.
And if someone could tell me, what is the win condition for town? Because I don't think I pose a threat to that.
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
The general town win con is to get rid of all non town factions, unless specified otherwise im their role pm, like one of my passives Made it that if I was the only town player left in the end I would change to the winning faction, so as long as I survived I won. Scum or other factions just have to get to a point where town can no longer get a majority vote on them as lynching is generally the only offensive townie ability they don't usually have outright kills.
Anyway as I said those are the general rules, this is mindscrew though so don't go assuming standard rules apply.
Anyway as I said those are the general rules, this is mindscrew though so don't go assuming standard rules apply.
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
That's the general logic. So far it seems that this mindscrew is staying true to the previous standards. Town can't win with the neutrals or scum alive. Though the possibility of someone lying about their wincon is always possible.Darth Skywalkerbacca wrote:The general town win con is to get rid of all non town factions, unless specified otherwise im their role pm, like one of my passives Made it that if I was the only town player left in the end I would change to the winning faction, so as long as I survived I won. Scum or other factions just have to get to a point where town can no longer get a majority vote on them as lynching is generally the only offensive townie ability they don't usually have outright kills.
Anyway as I said those are the general rules, this is mindscrew though so don't go assuming standard rules apply.
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jkinger93 wrote:Town can't win with the neutrals or scum alive.
Not for this, I'm pretty sure. Again, there's multiple types of neutrals; survivor-equivalents win whether the town or scum has killed all its hostiles. Independent killers prevent town or scum from winning while they live.
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Horselord wrote:jkinger93 wrote:Town can't win with the neutrals or scum alive.
Not for this, I'm pretty sure. Again, there's multiple types of neutrals; survivor-equivalents win whether the town or scum has killed all its hostiles. Independent killers prevent town or scum from winning while they live.
So what's your win con and alignment then? If you're so sure we don't need to lynch a neutral, what's your evidence?
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Townies, read your win conditions again. I'm not going to quote it, since Eggs might not like that, but it is crystal clear: all non-town, including all kinds of neutrals, need to be removed for town to win.
Alex. Hi. Thanks for the flavour analysis. Vote, please; or at the very least say who you might vote for.
Townies, read your win conditions again. I'm not going to quote it, since Eggs might not like that, but it is crystal clear: all non-town, including all kinds of neutrals, need to be removed for town to win.
There is also this. Often the factional win condition is something like this: 'You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.' (Factions include town, mafia, serial killer, cult etc; so neutrals don't block this kind of win con.) So by specifying that all non-town have to go could be a hint that there's no conventional mafia.Reverse Simplicity wrote:Thanks for confirming non town cloud, it almost looks like the only enemy to the town is a neutral party. Although horse had an ability directed at him during the night, it doesn't necessarily mean that scum even exist.
Are you willing to claim your own role?Cloud Kicker wrote:The role is Big Business, though I don't know why you all think of me as a threat.
Alex. Hi. Thanks for the flavour analysis. Vote, please; or at the very least say who you might vote for.
Any reason why you didn't just say what the actual town win con was because you know exactly what it is because you're a townie? FoS: DarthDarth Skywalkerbacca wrote:The general town win con is to get rid of all non town factions, unless specified otherwise im their role pm, like one of my passives Made it that if I was the only town player left in the end I would change to the winning faction, so as long as I survived I won. Scum or other factions just have to get to a point where town can no longer get a majority vote on them as lynching is generally the only offensive townie ability they don't usually have outright kills.
Anyway as I said those are the general rules, this is mindscrew though so don't go assuming standard rules apply.
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Huzzah! I am Captain Planet, the environmentalist!
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jkinger93 wrote:So what's your win con and alignment then? If you're so sure we don't need to lynch a neutral, what's your evidence?
Shouldn't it be obvious by now? I'm the first kind of neutral, the kind who wins with anyone. Although I'm voting against scum because they apparently want me dead.
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Please elaborate on this. If town win con says 'non-town need to go', how can you 'win with anyone'?Horselord wrote:Shouldn't it be obvious by now? I'm the first kind of neutral, the kind who wins with anyone.
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Supreme Overlord wrote:Please elaborate on this. If town win con says 'non-town need to go', how can you 'win with anyone'?
Then something is weird and contradictory. Perhaps the town win con is "all other factions must go"? Because I'm not in a faction.
I'm not sure you guys really want to hand a victory to CK's opposite number. I won't be affected either way, at least I don't think so.
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
It's clearly only town roles are allowed to be alive. What (paraphrased) is your information that says town can win with you? In fact, what is your win condition?Horselord wrote:Then something is weird and contradictory. Perhaps the town win con is "all other factions must go"? Because I'm not in a faction.
If Cloud's opposite also has the same win con, they'll probably leave the game when they achieve victory. Two for the price of one.Horselord wrote:I'm not sure you guys really want to hand a victory to CK's opposite number. I won't be affected either way, at least I don't think so.
That's also the main argument for lynching Cloud over Horselord (also, Cloud was first).
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Vote Count
Horselord -1, Cloud Kicker,
Reverse Simplicity -1 Horselord
Cloud Kicker -6 Darth Skywalkerbacca, Hachi, Reverse Simplicity, Sir_Scarfalot, Dark Vessel, Supreme Overlord
MAJORITY REACHED!
"Your choice has been made?
"Yes!"
"Is it final?"
"Yes!"
"May I have mercy on your soul."
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(We are allowed to talk during twilight - it is still 'day')
Excellent.
Looks like Big Business isn't Cloud Kicker's exact opposite - otherwise he would have vanished. Unless that resolves at the end of twilight.
Excellent.
Looks like Big Business isn't Cloud Kicker's exact opposite - otherwise he would have vanished. Unless that resolves at the end of twilight.
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Welp. Guess he wasn't so unlynchable after all, eh? And apparently neither a jester nor vig/bomb. Ta ta, better luck next game!
And no townies are yet dead! Kickin'~
And no townies are yet dead! Kickin'~
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Re: Mindscrew 4 Revenge of the Mod {Day 4}
another rustling alerts you to the presence of your short yellow buddy. And another bolt of energy hits Hachi. Hachi does not seem bothered.
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Why Hachi?
And why is he immune? Seriously, does someone want to own up to that?
And why is he immune? Seriously, does someone want to own up to that?
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Well, Scarfalot, only Hachi, you and I had been online, so do you want to own up to that?
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