Mafia 2.0

Also, Alex's role tracker is confirmed. Being town aligned, he had no reason to lie, and all the stuff he said is true.

So, what conclusions can we draw?

No, I think we should start with Eggs and go from there.

Reverse Simplicity: Are you voting for me because you say I base votes on nothing, if so why haven't you voted for me in other games for the same reason, otherwise is this a gvote because I put you on my scum list and you are terrified that people will eventually start to listen to me now that there are less player in the game.

Alex-1 isn't confirmed as town, but I can't really think of a reason to call him untrustworthy in the death reveal (death-Godfather that comes up as miller? Awesome idea for a role *scribbles it down on a napkin*).
I'll draw conclusions after the massclaim.
You want Eggs to go first? I want Eggs to clarify, but I think that should come after. If we're just voting, I want Darth to go first. Then popcorn?

First Claimer Vote Count
Eggs - 1 - Alex
Darth - 1 - Overlord

Darth, who do you want to claim first?

Reverse, was there anything in particular you wanted me to respond to, or should we massclaim first?

where is the fun in claiming I am personally aginst a mass claim.

Because making up fake claims is hard?

Well, a majority of living players have agreed that the massclaim should go ahead, and I believe that the threat of lynching should be used if you do not comply. In any case, hypothetically, who would you want to go first if we were to massclaim.

Sidenote: in other games you had no such reluctance.

no it isn't you go to the page were If I Could Rewind posted them in the thread

ok I claim Dreamer there happy

No really I am not happy, explain your role further! To me you just decided to randomly pick a role from the original post.

Reverse Simplicity wrote:No really I am not happy, explain your role further! To me you just decided to randomly pick a role from the original post.

That seems likely, actually.

Vote count 1 Day 2 continued:
1 Darth (L-2){RS}

Also SO Alex's role may be Tim's role or maybe not but his alignment was the same as Tim's.

Death event 2: Alex Steiner
It took a while of searching round his house but you eventually found what looks like a last testament anyway you quickly bring it out to the rest of the group and read it. "If you are reading this I'm dead but that doesn't matter because I can't change it now what really matters is the fact that Tim Tam isn't guilty. so please I'm begging you don't target him or you will be killing an innocent".

This is garunted to be true by the way

See see. I'm totally town. You should listen to me.

But what to do with this power .

If I Could Rewind wrote:Also SO Alex's role may be Tim's role or maybe not but his alignment was the same as Tim's.

Alex has Tim's ability, but could be a different alliance to Tim.

If I Could Rewind wrote:Tim Tam isn't guilty. so please I'm begging you don't target him or you will be killing an innocent".

This is garunted to be true by the way

Above IICR has made sure to post that he could be different alignment and then gone ahead said TT was definatelly innocent (Town)

Alex Steiner wrote:See see. I'm totally town. You should listen to me.

But what to do with this power .

Wow! You jumped at that chance! Unvote - Vote:Alex

No, wrong. IICR said the exact opposite to what you said he said.

The Mod wrote:Also SO Alex's role may be Tim's role or maybe not

I may not have his role.

The Mod wrote:but his alignment was the same as Tim's.

But my alignment is the same.

Tim's Alignment=Town
Alex's Alignment=Tim's Alignment
Alex's Alignment=Town
The transitive property of equality.

Who wouldn't jump at a chance to be confirmed?

I interpret that as Alex has taken over Tim in terms of alignment, but doesn't necessarily have his abilities. Then Tim was mod-confirmed, so I don't see where the problem is. I don't like the way you jumped on Alex just for reinforcing the Mod's confirmation.

PREVIEW: I see Alex said much the same, somewhat more clearly.

However, Vote: Darth. I doubt he can explain the 'Dreamer' ability to any reasonable standard, and I think it is likely that he picked a role thinking that would be enough (like Eggs' jailkeeper and Alex-1's untrustworthy earlier; both weren't justified much immediately after their first mention).

The difference, Darth, is that this is a massclaim, meaning everyone is claiming, and you need to claim everything.

Reverse, don't you have the gun?

Alex, do you know whether or not you have Tim's role?

I do in fact have Tim's role.

That doesn't mean much, since we don't know Tim's role, and it's not mod-confirmed anyway.

The mod confirmation is part of my ability.

Alex-1 ability or Alex-Tim ability?
What does this mean for your place in the massclaim?
In fact, what does Darth's claim mean for the masclaim?
I'm for Darth resolving his claim first, so if we need to lynch him, we don't go into Night 2 with extra scum information (similar reasons for not wanting to claim last twilight).

Alex-Tim ability.

I was given a choice of several events. I judged the best one to be another confirmed townie.

Was that confirmed townie specifically you, or a random/mid-chosen player?

It was specifically me .

But who was less important (IMO) than what.

What is your opinion on the state of the masclaim/where we should go from here?