Mafia 2.0

I have actually not changed the numbers whatsoever. I posted how they came hoping other people could work out more from them.

Alright, so what has everyone claimed? I know there where some distant claims... has anything been added since then?

Claims:
Darth - Dreamer (wincon and abilities unknown even to him)
Alex - lucky town veteran (bonuses in events, 50& chances of winning 1v1, mod confirmed)
Reverse - town planner (bunch of results, has a gun)
Overlord - survivor doctor (protect from either kill or virus)

I think Darth is town and doesn't know it; Mafia that doesn't know doesn't make sense, and I think he's telling the truth about not knowing his wincon. That leaves frog and Eggs as the Mafia, and Reverse as SK. Vote: Reverse

I protected Darth from a regular kill last night; I think either that's where the other (gun) kill went, or Reverse didn't use the gun again (is it only one-shot, can anyone say?). From what Eggs was saying yesterday, I think have been the most likely target for roleblocking, but I'm not sure how my claim would have affected that.

I was rolebloacked last night by the way. So I was unable to use my gun.

If I was serial killer then wouldn't that give me two kills? I have no other skills other than planer.

Seriously I think SO is scum along with Darth.

SO why would you not kill scum first? If there are two scum as you are suggesting wouldnt it be best to kill them. I am no a SK, you are wrong about that, but you are definatelly not playing town...

vote: SO

I thank Supreme Overlord for protecting me last night, unless he did in fact not protect me but decided with his scum buddy not to kill me because my roll so far is essentially useless and so he could claim that he protected me (the most powerful role, which it would make sense for the scum to target) in order to win the side of the town.

And now he is voting for his scum buddy and his scum buddy is voting for him to dissasociate each from the other as one was likely to be killed today anyway.

Elaborate plan or am I reading to much into it?

Darth is 100% Dreamer with win condition that he decides.
SO is 100% Doctor with a Surviver win condition.

I don't understand about how darth decides his win condition... So Darth wins inevitably?

SO is telling the truth, and since you have no knowledge of who is scum I am going to accept that you are playing town.

That leaves Alex... well Unvote: Vote: Alex

such a quick turn around could be an unconsulted change of approach after momentary panic as I unveiled their dastardly plan

Darth Skywalkerbacca wrote:such a quick turn around could be an unconsulted change of approach after momentary panic as I unveiled their dastardly plan

Actually IICR just came online and PM'd me with the results.

IICR: Did I mention your evil? Im never going to guess that thing xD

Why does it say mod confirmed next to Alex? If there are no scum that means that the only way for this to end is for either all town to die or all survivors.

Well, the mod had an event earlier that confirmed Alex-2's innocence (it was an ability from Alex-1). It was also guarenteed to be true. So, it's cute that you're trying to be truthful, but you've outconfirmed yourself.

Darth, what will it take for you to vote? I believe I've guessed your win condition; will you vote for Reverse if I tell you what it is?

As for the password (obvious, isn't it, Mod?), I've guessed it, but I don't believe I can tell you any more. I think I can hint, though, so check through the text of Event 5.m And submit a lot of guesses.

I can't vote if I don't correctly guess the password Oh no whatever shall I do

Mod: what happens if nobody else bothers to guess the password? Will I be able to lynch with a single vote at deadline? (Which is when, by the way?)

Darth, if you could guess the password, what would it take to get you to vote?

It would take the existence of a deity other then yourself. You personally drove me to see the error of my ways when it came to voting and I shall never make such mistakes again.

I think darth is the one needed to be killed for the game to end. Although I really don't understand this.

Survivor win conditition is when a faction wins any survivor alive will live?

Who roleblocked me?

I may have misread my Role PM... I will get back to you when I work it out. It is possible I am not actually a part of the town faction. I have a 70/30 chance to survive an endgame.

There is the factional win condition (wins if no other faction is alive); then the survivor win condition is to be alive when any faction achieves its win condition.

If you are telling the truth, which I'm not so sure of at the moment (actually, Alex, can you confirm that you are informed when roleblocked?), I think Eggs would have had to have roleblocked you. I think it's likely that he was a Mafia Roleblocker who wanted to claim Jailkeeper to seem more town. It would make sense for him to keep the gun blocked, but I'm not liking how supposedly unsure you are of your role.

Reverse wrote:It is possible I am not actually a part of the town faction.

Really?

Actually, just putting it out there, but I'm willing to side with pretty much anybody if it means getting a majority. Reverse, if you can convince Alex that Darth is the one to lynch, I can go with that. Really, though, send in a bunch of guesses, because not voting is annoying.

Darth can choose his own allignment. I don't understand how he has not chosen one already... You are sounding pretty sus because you just want any majority...

I'm pretty sure that after this lynch will be endgame.
My win condition is to survive until endgame.
What part of this are you not understanding?

Fair enough. If I escape Roleblock tonight, who should I kill?

Man this password is hard... not sure even what I am looking for...

you know one of you could self vote

Look harder.
If you're not roleblocked (and I see no reason why you should be), as SK you should kill Alex, and as town you should kill Darth. He's the only one who could possibly be anti-town at this point (if you're indeed town; did you clear that up?)
PREVIEW: Still gotta guess the password. Event 5 *cough*

If town win I have a 70/30 chance of winning to... so my survival could still lead to my death. Im not serial killer. I just have a gun as well as being a planer.

"Hope is found in the darkest of places light and illumination bring unspeakable horror towers of midnight over at last".

Honestly, how is that a clue to a password.

So only one (1) of us has the straight town win condition … at least Alex is mod confirmed.

I can’t even say how terrible this is. (And if I’m not modkilled for that, I don’t know what else I can do!) Think abstract. Or something.

I think I believe your claim; I don’t know why you would go from ‘town’ to ‘maybe town-ish’ if you were scum (but maybe that’s what you want me to think etc; I’ll keep an eye on you anyway).

However, Vote:Darth. I’ll think about the logistics of this, but one thought off the top of my head is a Dreamer joins the scum team at a certain point or after something happens (they ‘figure out how to use it’?). Hmm, it seems the old fallback might have some merit after all.

Vote count?

so I'm assuming that's your way of saying I'm not voting for myself hey Overlord

Darth must have gotten the password... Darth why would anyone vote for themselves when it could be 2 to lynch